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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:49 pm    Post subject: 2010 Rules Reply with quote

Rules are up.

http://www.clubloose.com/clubloose/2010rules.pdf

Things are a little more serious this year with rules. So don't show up at the first event with stuff that obviously doesn't meet the rules and think we'll let you drive.

Everything is easy and it's mostly for safety.

Harnesses are a serious issue this year with the state police. So make sure everything is up to spec with yours.

And remember, just because your car will meet Group A or Group B rules, does not guarantee that you will be in that group.

So print it out, tape it to your car and check it off. If you have any issues, ask us, we're here to help. So if you have something that you aren't sure about or need something cleared up, get in touch with us and we'll see what we can do.

Tim


Update:

Alright, so Matt and I talked to a couple of the shops that help us out and they're going to be offering a pre-season inspection for you guys.

They will check over everything on the rules and throw the car up on the lift and check underneath. Basically a full check over of the car both to make sure your car will pass tech and also to make sure everything else is in good shape.

Cost is $45.

The shops doing this for us are:
R/T Tuning - 215-855-5565 - www.rttuning.com
MA Motorsports - 410.633.1571 - www.mamsparts.com
JD Motorsports - 973.344.2886 - www.jdmotorsportsinc.com

All these guys will be able to get the inspection done and help you if there is anything wrong with the car that could be a problem. They will also give you a pre-inspection approval which will make getting through tech the first time a lot easier.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Windshield, rear window and fixed side windows must be present. Door windows must be operational if
installed."

Fixed side windows aren't door windows right? Any problems with a lexan windshield? Any problems with a panel built between the B-pillars with a lexan window so i can avoid running the heavy hatch+glass? So i can keep completely stock metal doors but i'm allowed to remove windows, regulators, misc window hardware, crank, tracks?

"Heat shield required around the brake and clutch master cylinders for any cars with the exhaust side of
the engine on the same side as the driver. OE heatshield is acceptable."

So a normal S-chassis with a KA will fail this part of tech? Or is this directed to turbo applications?



I printed it out, tomorrow i'll tape it to the car. Such a GREAT idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fixed side windows are like the little triangle windows on the 240. Door windows are the windows in the door.

I don't know about Lexan front windshields. Rear or side are alright though.

If you want to run something like the BN ugly hatch thing, I don't care. If you make something it needs to be solid and not a flimsy piece of shit.

Doors need to keep all the metal, but you can remove the window stuff.

The heat shield rule is more directed at turbo cars. But stock KA's have a heat shield over the exhaust manifold. So just put it back on. It comes on the car for a reason.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so being that i have a vlsd, no road course till i get a new 2way?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coilovers not needed for C group? (im getting them just not sure as to if itll be by first event or not, lost my job)

passenger side window must work aswell? crank window fine?

would a drivers side slightly rotted rocker panel fail inspection?(i jacked entire drivers side of car up about 5 inches ooff ground and there was no give in the rusted/rotted area so structure is still there)

if batery is located in trunk and there is a sheet metal barrier, between the trunk and drivers compartment and trunk, with wire wholes in it will it need to be sealed.

are head lights required to work? and if so are highbeams fine?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: 2010 Rules Reply with quote

wiisass wrote:
Battery must be securely tied down with plastic or metal strap and proper hardware. No bungee cord, zip ties, etc.


So, is the stock strap setup in our S197 mustang's acceptable? I ran it all last year with no issues but it's not metal or plastic. It's got a plastic piece securing the base with the strap going up and over.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: 2010 Rules Reply with quote

krang00 wrote:
wiisass wrote:
Battery must be securely tied down with plastic or metal strap and proper hardware. No bungee cord, zip ties, etc.


So, is the stock strap setup in our S197 mustang's acceptable? I ran it all last year with no issues but it's not metal or plastic. It's got a plastic piece securing the base with the strap going up and over.


i know your not asking me but im pretty sure if it's OEM equipment it will pass just fine. -his point is, no rigged pieces of shit that are dangerous allowed on track.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:50 am    Post subject: Re: 2010 Rules Reply with quote

krang00 wrote:
So, is the stock strap setup in our S197 mustang's acceptable? I ran it all last year with no issues but it's not metal or plastic. It's got a plastic piece securing the base with the strap going up and over.


If it helps those in charge i have only seen the battery setup in an 05-09 mustang fail once when the car hit a barrier at 60mph on the passenger side, it literally tore the strut tower off along with the battery. Other than that my dealership has gotten roll overs, front ends impacts, rear ends impacts, etc and i havent seen the stock system fail.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

since every car has to have a Extinguishers were are you guys mounting them?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If battery is located in driver's compartment, battery must be sealed and non-venting. Non-sealed
batteries are allowed in driver's compartment if in a fully sealed box, properly mounted and vented outside
the car."

- What if the battery is in the trunk and the battery being used is a non ventilated battery ?

"Heat shield required around the brake and clutch master cylinders for any cars with the exhaust side of
the engine on the same side as the driver. OE heatshield is acceptable."

- Heat shield must be present even if we are running a stock bottom mount turbo?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soosh wrote:
so being that i have a vlsd, no road course till i get a new 2way?


Well you could get a used 2-way or just get an open and weld it. It will be a lot better.

tj_ras wrote:
coilovers not needed for C group? (im getting them just not sure as to if itll be by first event or not, lost my job)

passenger side window must work aswell? crank window fine?

would a drivers side slightly rotted rocker panel fail inspection?(i jacked entire drivers side of car up about 5 inches ooff ground and there was no give in the rusted/rotted area so structure is still there)

if batery is located in trunk and there is a sheet metal barrier, between the trunk and drivers compartment and trunk, with wire wholes in it will it need to be sealed.

are head lights required to work? and if so are highbeams fine?


Coilover are not required for group C, but you'll never get into group B without them. And we aren't planning on letting C onto the road course, but if we do, the cars will have to have everything needed to be in group B in order to be allowed out there.

All windows that move, must be operational. If not, it needs to be removed.

If the rusted area does not affect the structural integrity of the car, then it's alright.

Just use a sealed battery. Batteries can be in the trunk as long as they are completely sealed from the driver's compartment. They still need to be solidly mounted. So no dumb shit like drilling 2 holes and sticking j-hooks through them.

Headlights are not required, but you'll want them for Night Moves events.


krang00 wrote:
wiisass wrote:
Battery must be securely tied down with plastic or metal strap and proper hardware. No bungee cord, zip ties, etc.


So, is the stock strap setup in our S197 mustang's acceptable? I ran it all last year with no issues but it's not metal or plastic. It's got a plastic piece securing the base with the strap going up and over.


OE non-metal/plastic battery tie downs are allowed as long as it's in good condition and hasn't been modified.


SKY80 wrote:
"If battery is located in driver's compartment, battery must be sealed and non-venting. Non-sealed
batteries are allowed in driver's compartment if in a fully sealed box, properly mounted and vented outside
the car."

- What if the battery is in the trunk and the battery being used is a non ventilated battery ?

"Heat shield required around the brake and clutch master cylinders for any cars with the exhaust side of
the engine on the same side as the driver. OE heatshield is acceptable."

- Heat shield must be present even if we are running a stock bottom mount turbo?


So it's a sealed battery? Then it's alright in the trunk. If it's not sealed, the trunk needs to be completely sealed from the driver's compartment.

Just use the OE heat shield.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what i remember it is a sealed battery..Its a optima Red top battery.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Optima's are sealed. So they're fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok cool....now for the fire extinguisher...were should that be mounted?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somewhere that you can reach while strapped in.

Definitely not on the a-pillar.

Floor right in front of the seat is good.
On the center console somewhere.

Just sit in the seat, and look at different places and see if you can reach them with your seat belt/harness on.
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